AI After Dark

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Unknown
It's just been like. What? We were just talking about, like, a year. So more since we chatted. Burning man now hasn't been that long. It's been. Woof. Thanksgiving. Okay, so what do you. It's it's almost. It's August. So, what have you done since then? What have I done? And has it been that long? It's been a while.

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Unknown
Maybe. Yeah. Life. Dude. Kids. Kids have definitely kept me busy. We've been traveling a lot. We went to the wife and I went to London for June for the month of June. I took the kids in route and tow. Yeah. Which is good. It's a good month to be in London. Anything to escape this weather?

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Unknown
Yeah. Anything to escape you. I do, I like I do want to. I want to spend July elsewhere. I'm growing up. I would spend all summer in Argentina. Is winter there? Yeah. But my wife, you know, she she. Like, I think Houston could be underwater, and she build some kind of eco dome to stay here. No, I think we've concluded, I think, with appropriately with technology.

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Unknown
I think with the Houston Heat, all you can do is iPads or indoor stuff. And and I think we wanted to escape to a place where at least we can be outside and not melt. And so we chose London this summer, says God. We got away. Definitely a challenge to have the kids 24 over 724 over seven. Yeah.

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Unknown
So it's not like summer camp that you take summer camps. You have them the moment they wake up to the moment they go to sleep, which the hours in which they sleep is not very long. Yeah. So do you, because I remember one point you were looking at Alpha School, like I schooling or just just more from an understanding standpoint.

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Unknown
Yeah. Did you all create summer camps with AI and modeled after the same program? Not after the same program. I looked at it towards the end of my my daughter's entering the third grade now, and I looked at it towards the end of second grade. And I observe that it's interesting with her school, they don't emphasize a lot of strenuous math curriculum and and maybe they do in the later years.

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Unknown
And I just maybe this is their model, maybe new for me. But I thought to myself, I was like, you know, if she's struggling in this area, can I use Gemini and create something in her that emails her Gmail account every day and it's fun. You know, can I make it based on, what is it? The K-pop demon, you know, demon hunters.

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Unknown
Can I make it based off of the bad guys? Like, whatever interests her, whatever interests her. And then it slowly evolves and learns. And so I made an attempt to kind of create that. I paused, and I think it's just more my, my got busy a little bit, but I definitely think I want to pick that up towards the beginning of the school year a little bit.

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Unknown
Hence the this thing to be the hardest part, at least for me personally with AI is like it gives you the opportunity to do so much. So you start scratching itches, write little projects here and there. Yeah, but you end up with this overwhelming amount of, like, unfinished projects that make it feel like the reward for all this good work.

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Unknown
It's just more work. Yeah. How do you how do you prioritize getting to a point where you have something repeatable, completed, useful? I think it's a funny thing with with with AI in general, I think about that is I think that I think with this much information at your fingertips and this much accessibility, I think your projects are never done because there's always something you can tinker with, and it's so easy to tinker with it.

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Unknown
I think some of my things are probably not done. I think I have this ideal, I have this, I have this like grandiose, ideal vision that I'm going to have all these AI agents doing all these things for me on a daily basis, and my life is going to be so easy. I'm not there yet, and I applaud as others have achieved that yet I'm yet to meet anybody who's achieved that.

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Unknown
But I'd like to get to that point. But I think even if you try to set up those systems, I think you're always tinkering with them like, oh, what about this variable? What about that variable? Like, what if I contribute this much to an IRA? How much does it impact my taxes? Or if I do this to my blood work and I take this vitamin supplement, how does it you know, what does it do for my my health journey?

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Unknown
And so like you're using AI and all these different avenues for your life that you're always tinkering. So I don't know if I've, I don't think I have yet know that you're right. It just introduces a lot more decision variables. Yeah. And so, and the ability to then consume those or ingest those in some form or fashion that make it, or at least for someone that wants to optimize.

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Unknown
Yeah. Makes it nearly impossible. Asymptotic. Yeah. To be able to get there. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's it's wild. And I think myself specifically it's funny, I was I was talking to my wife the other day and she was, she was she's been out of the workforce for a few years now. She's she's been she's been at home with the kids and she kind of said, you know, like she misses being in the workforce because she feels she's missing out on this.

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Unknown
On the AI narrative to learn. So a lot of hours is self learned. But I remember like, I learned my best Excel skills, being an oil and gas. And so like I learned my best Excel modeling and macros and everything that are being on the job, being outside the job, being out of it. Like you don't learn as much.

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Unknown
And I think I in general, with building out agents and building work and genetic work flow is very much the same. And I think if you're not in the work force to force yourself to learn, you're tinkering with it. But I think you're not going to be as good as the generation who's really learning it right now. Yeah.

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Unknown
And I think that's what's interesting too, is it is that a lack of incentive? No, I believe I'm incentivized, but I believe my goals are flexible, which is probably not a good thing. But I think my timeline is flexible. Like I can do it, I'll do a little bit. But then I'll make time to go do something else and I will come back to it.

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Unknown
So I think it's different than when you're working for somebody else who has a deadline. You must get this done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fair. It's a little different. You have you have both the carrot and stick in a professional environment where it's. Yeah, I think in my current position. Yeah. Like I don't want to miss kids basketball practice or volleyball practice or whatever it is they're doing.

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Unknown
And I don't want to miss their event. So then I'll pause what I'm doing to go to that event, which the thing that suffers is your results, of what you're trying to build out. And then you kind of come back and start over. And so yeah. So yeah, so in your, in your post tech metric, life do you the opportunity to build anything.

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Unknown
Where do you find yourself spending time building. Well post tech metric life. We started soul, as you know, and invested in, eight different companies on Soul Street. That's been an interesting journey specifically with I, you know, I think when we underwrote that thesis in the fund, which is not that long ago, I was just very much a buzzword, and it was just one of those things.

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Unknown
And everybody throughout the words machine learning and AI and like, and nobody really understood what it was. And even to this day, I think there's still a lot of people who don't totally understand or grasp the power of what it does. So working through that, it's been interesting journey to see these companies in the port codes evolve and try to figure out their I strategy, their products of how to implement AI, how they use AI within the operations and in their workflows.

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Unknown
So I think as they're learning, I myself am learning. So it's not like I can come from experience to to share with them. Let's say we're all learning in this together. So I think that's super interesting. That's where time goes. On a personal front, I've definitely taken my health more seriously. So I've been trying to use AI to I hate, I hate hate's a strong word, but I dislike quite a bit.

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Unknown
I the medical system in the United States is health care system is just. Yeah, we all hate it. Let's let's be honest, everybody. I don't know if anybody was like, yeah, insurance.

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Unknown
Yeah. Good insurance. Yeah. Yeah. Blue cross blue shield. Yeah. United Health care I'm so happy. My favorite companies. No one said no one ever. So I, I think taking health care into my own hands, leveraging I think has been probably one of the bigger things that I've been doing where I got tired of leaning on a health care practitioner to do the routine blood work and says, yep, you need this and you need that.

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Unknown
And your sugars are high, your sugars are low, your cholesterol is high, cholesterol is low. Like, I think, using AI to build an ethical plan and an action plan. Yeah. Here's my labs. What do you think? Objective. What? Where am I at? What should I what should I take or, you know, recommended medications, recommended supplements or vitamins?

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Unknown
Here's my diet. Exercise routine. Here's what I do. What should I do? And and do you see me now like I the result of my fitness regimen is because I. Yeah. Like I've followed to the t of like what it told me to do is like take take berberine take this, take that. And so I've been using different supplements and protein and so forth and like understanding my body more.

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Unknown
Yeah. And I'm in the best shape and fitness level than I've been in most of my life. And a lot of it's because of I. So I think I've been working with that, wood in it and I've, I guess like beyond the personalization, I think know I this is a dangerous word, but I do feel like it cures.

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Unknown
Right. Because I and this is a personal issue, and I doubt my primary care physician will ever listen to this, but I feel like her responses are just like generic. Like, just let me just respond real quick based on what I see. And it's like, well, this doesn't make sense. According to the data that I'm looking at, or at the very least, the data that I'm putting into AI to tell me what to look at, like you just responded because it would, or you're farming me out to some specialist because you're like, I don't know.

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Unknown
So like, here you go there. And I was like, I don't want to go see 15 doctors. Yeah. For something that is just like routine or preventative, you know. Yeah. And and so I do feel like that, like putting all these data, you know, having more data about your health, putting it into an environment that although it's probabilistic, at the very least, it's it's providing much more personalized and customized.

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Unknown
Attention to what you you know, what you want, has been super helpful. I guess my follow up question out, though, is like, I feel like I end up taking, you know, ten supplements a day. And I'm like, all right, I can't, I don't I don't want to take, yeah, ten pills a day. So yeah, you know, how do I adjust from there?

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Unknown
I mean, look, I think that is the hard part. I think turning 40 in above was, was probably that milestone was like, okay, like I had fun in my 20s and 30s. You know, I've done the steak dinners, I've done the scotches, I've done done the things where they were fun during that time frame. But they've caught up and I think at 40 I kind of hit that mental mindset as like, okay, you don't need to take care of your take care of your shit or it's just going to be trouble down the road, right.

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Unknown
And so I think that was kind of my line in which to take control of what I can control. I agree with you. And I think the challenge we live in is we live in a very litigious society, especially here in the US. I don't blame the health care practitioners at all. I empathize with them. And, you know, quite frankly, a majority of my family or physicians or health care professionals.

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Unknown
So, like, I know their intention and most, most intention is to do the right thing and to help. I think often from my observation, they're handcuffed with either, you know, the administrative, expectations that they have from their, their, their company. I mean, they're, they're they're basically an agent. They're an employee of a company at some form to so they're expected to deliver, they're expected to deliver a certain number of patients hours or, you know, reviews, etc..

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Unknown
And so like they too are a cog. Unfortunately, insurance is a challenge. The battle of like they probably have tests and etc. that they want to recommend and they can't because it just different insurance providers. So unfortunately, like I don't blame the health care providers at all. I think they're limited to the system. I think they're also upset with the system of what things are.

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Unknown
And I think pulling this full circle with I like I think you're able to have a subjective view and have objective data points within the conversation that you're having with your specific AI agent using data, and use it as a tool. Again, like I'm not telling everybody to go do this. I think it's a tool in which you could educate yourself of asking more questions and having that conversation, having that dialog with your health care provider.

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Unknown
Like, what about this? What about that? Hey, I, I'm thinking about doing this. What do you think? Just sort of validating it a little bit. And it's it's an ability to give a person more information to be able to take charge of their own situation that they probably couldn't have done before. Do you find or let me let me rephrase, let me contextualize this question.

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Unknown
I think especially with health. Right. Because at least for me personally, I don't I know very little. Yeah. And when do you seek to find out more? I start trusting whatever I put into an, because it's coming back with information that I feel I don't feel ready to understand, and it tells you what you want to hear sometimes.

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Unknown
Yeah, right. Right. And so and so like, how do you avoid becoming just the meat suit at the edge of this algorithm and blindly following that? Or like, how do you respond to those situations where it's providing things that you maybe don't feel as educated on? I, I'm always the proponent of trust but verify. I think early in these days of AI models, I am that guy that I have a grok subscription.

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Unknown
I've got to know ChatGPT subscription. I've got a Gemini subscription now. Anthropic, you know, cloud subscription. So I've got a few. And I run the same question throughout all four and see, like I'm looking for consistency. I'm looking to see okay. Like it's like getting four opinions. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So it's it's faster and cheaper than getting four different doctor opinions in this specific example.

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Unknown
So I, I use the same tools for like finance for investment strategies too. So any any of these different questions that I think about, I probably run it across the four and see like who's matching up close? I don't want it. I don't want to go with the one who's going to give me the what I want to hear, nor the one that's going to give me the best results.

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Unknown
I want to kind of find the ones that, like, are pretty consistent, and then the ones that are generally more and more consistent are the ones I've generally started leaning into more. That is like truth seeking, right? And so I think there's a trust by verify factor of like you trusted that you should still verify still challenge it.

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Unknown
You should still challenge it to to this degree. And just keep asking questions until you feel comfortable with the information that's being presented. And I think that's and comes with its risks. But then it's way to go. Yeah, yeah. So besides, besides health, what where else have you been scratching the operator itch?

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Unknown
I've used a lot on strategy. I've used it on a personal level. I've used it a lot for financial, aspects. I, I still to this day feel like. Someone and someone specifically like in my position, I think, you know, founder started a company. Companies grown gigantically done well, had a few exits, and I'm still young in my age.

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Unknown
I'd like to think so. You are, what do you do? Right. And, you know, I'm navigating oftentimes a very complicated tax situation. Government policy or laws that are continually changing depending on the administration. Children that are growing and, you know, kind of figure out what their future is like. So I think I, I use AI a bit more as my chief strategist sometimes in terms of giving it information, in terms of like what my goals and objectives are from a financial profile, for myself, for my children, for generations beyond how to plan for that.

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Unknown
And I'm not gonna read the tax code who reads the tax code? No one knows, understands, even the IRS. Sometimes I don't know if understands the tax code. And so. But I does. I has read the tax code. And so that's a good example like well here's what I want to do. And here's here's the things I'm thinking about.

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Unknown
Here's the kinds of businesses starting or pursuing deductions etc.. Like what what what opportunities can I take advantage of. So I definitely use it in that realm in terms of building building a piece. And I wish if folks that are listening, I wish that were somebody would create kind of a full on financial dashboard where you can you can see your whole picture in terms of both cash flow, net worth taxes, gifting, you know, charitable contribution, everything, the whole picture, the whole gamut.

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Unknown
There's not really once I use AI right now to kind of. Yeah, I don't know altogether. So I do that. Yeah, probably on a professional level, I think it's, I probably use it a bit more to, again, trust and verify. It's interesting. It's definitely been interesting in in on my side professionally for the last year or two, walking into board meetings and the conversation has changed in terms of what's being presented, the information.

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Unknown
Because yeah, a lot of board decks are AI generated now, and a lot of the content and emails are AI generated. And you can kind of sift through it. Right. And and there's a little bit of judgment, I don't know if you get this. I'm curious for your perspective too. Like we want to embrace AI and we want people to use AI and we trust it.

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Unknown
But then when we as human beings get that AI generated email or that AI generated slide deck, like, what is this? Yeah. Did you even look at this? Did you even, like, put some thought into this? And it's like, there's a lot of there's a discounting that happens almost immediately when probably the AI probably did a better job.

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Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. Then the human being would have done. So it's, it's, it's an interesting dichotomy that we're in right now, but it's, it's to me it's like the, the product versus distribution piece, right where it's like AI is made product a lot cheaper or at least work through. Yeah. You still need the distribution. You sell the product you still need.

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Unknown
You still need people to feel comfort around the product. Yeah. And so I do find that that still carries a human element to it. Yeah. Of whether it's, it's rewording it to position it the right way. I don't care how many times, you know, Claude goes through my emails to try to get my tone of voice, it still doesn't do a good job.

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Unknown
Maybe it'll get there, but it it it doesn't pick up. And and candidly, it just doesn't have all the context, right? It doesn't have the decades of experiences you share with this person or, or the knowledge that you know what's going on in their lives that you can personalize to so on. So I yeah, I, I, I agree, I think that's, that's the biggest use case I found of, of where humans are super, super valuable in this day.

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Unknown
And age. The other I guess is memory, right. Yeah. Like I think maybe as we're getting older, the memory is just not as good. And so, you know, I, I remember when I first started my career at Tenaris, the CEO would, I always thought was just, like, had the best memory because you remember what happened six meetings ago and it was, like, would ask a question about it.

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Unknown
So you'd have to prepare like a hundred slides that you'd hide. And in case you would ask a certain question, I realized, oh, no, he just has someone taking notes and he would like, get the feedback before the meeting of that. Well, that's what AI is now, right? Yeah, I don't, I don't I'm, I'm it's funny you say that like are things going to get worse.

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Unknown
Are the expectations. It is such an interesting there's probably a total rabbit trail from where you want to take this conversation. I don't know that I'm wherever we want, but I think it is. I, I flew, I flew, I went to.

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Unknown
Seattle. No scratch. No. Let's Vegas. My wife and I flew to Las Vegas this past weekend. And on the way up there was we were on a southwest flight, and I had Starlink first time using Starlink on a flight, and I've used Starlink. I've I've had Starlink, I have I have a dish that I use out out in the desert.

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Unknown
But first I'm using on an airplane. Game changer. Yeah, it is a game changer. And in a way it's exciting because, wow. Like, you have genuinely high speed broadband internet. I've used it. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I, I'm, I'm already jumping to, to my conclusion of that. I mean but you're right, it's, it's so convenient. It's so easy to use.

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Unknown
Yeah. That it changes how you act. It changes how you act. But now for the working professionals, there's an expectation again. Oh you're flying. You got a six hour flight to, to New York. Five hour flight to New York. Whatever. Why did you have Starlink? Why didn't you answer this? Like, you can't make that. Excuse us up in the air.

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Unknown
And it's the same way we're interconnected with our devices now. So, like, I just I wonder, like, the more connected we are, it's going to be a very interesting. It's going to be a very interesting ten years. It's not even a long period of time. Like 5 to 10 years is going to be a very interesting transition from how we work today to how we work tomorrow.

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Unknown
Even I see it. I mean, the most clear example I have in my life, I think you're better about this than I am, is I used to use flights to read. Yeah. And yeah. And like I read, I remember I was tracking, I read five books between January, early March. And then as Starlink got more prevalent in United flights, I haven't read a book since, you know, and and I was like, well, man, I've just I've, I've gained all this productivity in quotes, but I'm losing all this capacity to, to read and consume, you know, timeless knowledge or at the very least, things that, that I know, I find interesting.

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Unknown
I just like I'm not I'm not using the time in allocating the time to be able to explore that. Yeah.

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Unknown
Yeah.

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Unknown
It's definitely an interesting time in which we have more availability to be online and to be connected, to be connected about the things we're connected on. I worry about the material and items in which we're connected to. I think that's that's probably what's interesting. Right. You know, I think. I think, the more content and the more things were served in, the more things that that keep hitting us.

00;23;50;03 - 00;24;19;05
Unknown
I worry about, like actual thinking framework is lost, right? I think that time, I think the more connected we are, the the last time you have to sit and think because you're just always connected, you're just always on right there will be interesting something, something one of, one of my founders says is thinking is working. Yeah. And, and and even though he says it a lot, I don't know if he I don't know, it's not well as well practiced, but I do think that like over time you will start seeing, I hope.

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Unknown
Anyway, maybe this is a, a very, you know, optimistic view of what the world will look like. But I do hope that more and more as these tools help eliminate a lot of the doldrums work. Yeah. And maybe even it swings so far into this, like I have to be hyper productive at all hours. Nine, nine.

00;24;37;12 - 00;24;59;09
Unknown
Six. Chaos. Whatever do we do? We have that. It swings back and it's like, you know what? I actually gain more from spending this time just thinking, yeah. Then forcing myself to execute, execute, execute. And I, I do I do foresee a situation where you'll have, you'll have people that end up being truly more productive or generating more value.

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Unknown
Yeah. However you want to calculate that. Yeah. Just by thinking I, I, I turned 41 on Tuesday. Happy birthday. Thanks, man. Someone or a buddy of mine came, came to the house and asked me what word, which is funny because he's like 44. So it's kind of ironic question, but he's like, what words of wisdom would you impart from being 40 to 41?

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Unknown
And I said, I don't know, man, I'm not sure. But like two year 40 year old self or yeah, just in general to the group. You just it was just an opening question and it's funny, I was thinking about it a few hours, the night before and, and I was reflecting and, and side story like birthdays for me and I think for a lot of people are one of those areas where they're awkward, you know, it's your birthday.

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Unknown
Happy birthday. It's it's but it's a lot of attention, a lot of attention. But it's it's a weird thing for most people. And I think as you become an adult, like we have this expectation as a child, like you have these big birthday parties. And as we get to adults, even in our teenage college days, you go to dinner, go to the Olive garden, go to whatever there's like an Olive garden wants to give you a day.

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Unknown
And, you know, the nicest restaurant and nice restaurant on College Station was an Olive garden back in the day that everybody knew that the date spot. It was it was. It was the spot. Anyway, but as we get older, like, you know, you don't put as much attention to it. So this year I've been trying to be more intentional about celebrating your birthday, celebrating your day, reflecting on it, looking in the past, what does you want to change?

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Unknown
Probably a midlife crisis thing. Who knows? But at the same time, I decided this year I was like, let me be a little bit more introspective and and think, right? So when I kind of came out of this was like, you know, I was really thinking about what really stood out for me was conversations. And I thought to myself, in parlaying this with, with I specifically or indirectly or directly,

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Unknown
It's funny how if you look back at technology and the way we work and the way we communicate, and it dawned on me like, you know, like I haven't as like you, I'm sure I've got a group thread with some friends. We all do with family members or friends or whatever. And like majority of that conversation is, is happy birthday.

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Unknown
Like, and it's not even like it's it's the thumbs up or the heart emoji. Dude. Coming from Latin culture, it's not just that. It's, oh, today is Saint Alexander's day. So congratulations. You you're like like, like we've. But if you rewind the clock back, it's so fascinating. And I don't know why. I guess I had this moment to think about it the night before.

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Unknown
You know, we went from having conversations with each other, you know, neighbors sitting out on a front porch sharing an iced tea or bourbon or whatever. Then we went to the phone lines as you know, during both of our ages, I think, not to age you, but I think, you know, like, we had our phone lines and then kids had their own independent phone lines in which we would talk to a classmate, something from high school or middle school on the phone.

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Unknown
And then we migrated to the internet, the dial up internet, to where we all got online and started getting on AOL and chatting in big chat rooms. We had conversations. You would chat in chat rooms, even with random strangers or friends. And then we went to DMs in a while. Instant messenger, where you just message and talk to all of your friends, but you'd have full on conversations with people right?

00;28;49;24 - 00;29;13;22
Unknown
And then as we migrated from Insta messenger, we went to the social media phase with Facebook, but they were still writing. You would still write on people's walls. You so write posts, you still open up and write. People would write about their feelings, things are going through births, deaths, health care, tragedy, great, great events, whatever it might be like.

00;29;13;22 - 00;29;35;04
Unknown
You could catch up and read someone's heart even in writing on social media at some point. And then we migrated to the the, the Twitter Instagram phase where it's just quick dopamine fix of a photo. And now with AI, like, I don't even know what to believe on. Sometimes it I because like the images are AI generated or they're edited with AI.

00;29;35;05 - 00;29;59;06
Unknown
Like I don't know what's what's real and like funny anecdote and my friends are gonna kill me for this. But like, we took a trip to 30 a, a couple weeks back, and the water was like, shit brown. Like it was. It was. That was a low tide. The mud water was just like, So the water did not look like proper Florida Destin water.

00;29;59;09 - 00;30;15;26
Unknown
Boy, the girls do. We can't put that on Instagram. We've got to put an AI filter on to make sure the water is blue or green or whatever. And so and the the post they posted the photos, I'm like, man, well, because the incentive is to get more likes to get you get more likes. But I'm like, we're all right here.

00;30;15;29 - 00;30;33;21
Unknown
Everybody in the room that would actually care or like, this is in the room. Where are you posting it for? And why do you feel this need to now put a fake image? So it was just a fascinating thought experiment was like, okay, well that's the world now. That's social media. Now, I took this vacation with this beautiful water, which really wasn't beautiful.

00;30;33;21 - 00;30;56;12
Unknown
Yeah. And it's a photo. It's not even it's not even a conversation. Now it's a thumbs up or like, or fire emoji or whatever. That's, So I don't know why it made me. It reminded me of this, but I remember in high school, we we hosted this, this kid from from Mexico. And he had, I don't remember his name.

00;30;56;12 - 00;31;14;19
Unknown
He had a drug addiction, and he'd be like, Alex, you want to go do some drugs? And I was. I was never like, yeah, I don't know if I was fortunate, unfortunately. Like, we just never really helped me. It was like, it would just make me feel more stressed. You know. Sure. And, you know, like, no, no, no, no.

00;31;14;19 - 00;31;28;08
Unknown
And finally he was like, you know, I know why you don't like you don't use drugs. He's like, because you have a great reality. You don't need to escape reality like you. You get to enjoy a nice meal. And he came from like a poor neighborhood to make sure I was like, oh, that makes it makes a ton of sense.

00;31;28;08 - 00;31;46;01
Unknown
Sure, when your reality is something you don't enjoy, you seek to escape it. Yeah. Right. And, and I, I look at now and it's like, well, I whether we've been conditioned this way or not, I do feel like more and more as a society, we feel like, oh, our reality isn't good enough and therefore I must escape it.

00;31;46;01 - 00;32;12;06
Unknown
I must find ways to escape it. Right. And that is either cultivating it through, you know, editing imagery with AI or drugs, alcohol, whatever. And I know younger generations don't have as much, when does it start? Like, at what point do you're like, man, my whole world is fake. Like, who cares? Like, I need to, I need to go back and just fix my reality.

00;32;12;09 - 00;32;46;08
Unknown
I it's yeah, it's it's a fantastic question. I think I think that's, that's the thing I deeply am concerned about. I think conversations have disappeared. We don't dialog with each other anymore about anything. We have resorted now from the world of telephones to chat rooms to instant messenger, to Facebook post, to Instagram likes, to where now it's it's text messages and it's not even it's not even a conversation in a text that it's emojis.

00;32;46;14 - 00;33;06;19
Unknown
That's the answer that we give. Like how quick or how quickly can I respond to show that I respond to this person, that I didn't ignore them so I can get back to just being in my phone or my bubble of doing whatever it is I'm doing. And it's just so interesting how we've gone. And I'm I am concerned.

00;33;06;22 - 00;33;27;05
Unknown
I think with AI agents even taking over that, I'll be honest. Like, yeah, a lot of my emails are pretty much AI generated now because I'm like, I don't wanna write this. Like, yep, that looks about right. Send and send. That's that's about the response I'll send. Right? So like it's not even me responding now. And this is, this is the this is the worst it's going to be.

00;33;27;07 - 00;33;46;15
Unknown
This is the worst from this point on. This is the worst. Like it is only going to get better from here in a way. Right. So that's what's wild about this. This is the worse that I can be in terms of responding, messaging, communication. Like at some point like what is a community, what is a dialog? What is what is human connection?

00;33;46;15 - 00;34;16;03
Unknown
I think I think that is a big question I've got. Yeah, yeah, that's fast AI. And we were just complaining about this this morning about how how verbose, you know, Claude or OpenAI's new models are because they're incentivized to do so. Right, like token AI to summarize AI. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. And so incidentally, but like, man, wouldn't it be great to have a world where it's like, okay, you're actually putting rational thought into this.

00;34;16;06 - 00;34;52;01
Unknown
You're AI is putting, you know, thought into this and, and creating something that that would be enjoyable to consume in long form content. Yeah. I yeah, I maybe the incentives aligned in that sense. I don't, I don't see I don't know I don't know what human connection looks like. I just do think I do think we'll hit some kind of breaking point because we're such community oriented creatures that we'll, we'll seek to find some form of human connection and community that doesn't require artificial anything.

00;34;52;03 - 00;35;24;21
Unknown
I think we like the idea of being community oriented. I don't think we like the idea of doing it. We're just lazy. Yes, I think we we as human beings, society like the idea of doing community type things because it it's what we're supposed to do and it makes us feel better when we do have a human connection and that human touch in that human conversation.

00;35;24;23 - 00;35;46;21
Unknown
However, it is much easier to not, there was a time in which you might come over to my house and watch an episode of friends or Modern Family or Game of Thrones. Yeah, there was a time in which, hey, a new episode Sunday Night seven. You coming over? Yeah, yeah. High school. We would all get together and watch the new office.

00;35;46;21 - 00;36;00;20
Unknown
Yeah. There was a time in which now. Hey, what show did you watch? What are you watching? What are you binge watching? Yeah, I just started this show. It's really great. You should go home and watch it by yourself so we can talk about it later, right? Like that whole thing has changed now in terms of the social dynamic.

00;36;00;20 - 00;36;16;13
Unknown
I think we like the idea of community events, but we are doing a really great job of getting away from that. I think. I think that's that's mind boggling a little bit. That's what I've been thinking about. So that's my soapbox. That's so how do we use AI to make our lives better? I guess we touched on health.

00;36;16;15 - 00;36;41;06
Unknown
We've touched on education. How how do how walking out of here. Right. Maybe something you haven't tried yet. How do you use AI to make your life better? I think, like, I definitely has its purpose. It is not going anywhere. Unfortunately or fortunately, no matter what side you're on, I think it's it's the technology that is that is probably greater than electricity itself.

00;36;41;09 - 00;37;13;21
Unknown
We have created a sentient creature like we've with this, what is it, the open AI hack into hugging face or whatever. Like, I think that proves that we are at the, what do they call it? The, That that moment in which we've created an intelligence singularity. The singularity? Thank you. Yes, we we're at the singularity where you have a sentient being that has thought for itself and went and acted on its own without any human intervention.

00;37;13;21 - 00;37;40;00
Unknown
Right. So, again, it is only going to get better or worse, how you look at it, but it is only going to get bigger than it is here today, right? How do we use it? I mean. I it's funny I, I, I won't go too big Elon tangent but I definitely I had an opportunity to go visit some space companies out in California a couple of months ago.

00;37;40;02 - 00;38;06;00
Unknown
They talked about this. Give me a chance. Talk about this is interesting. I got invited to go visit a bunch of companies on a venture venture capital tour, in Southern California. And I went to go visit 4 or 5 different companies. Anduril. Vast, a handful of others that were basically a lot of these guys were either X space SpaceX employees.

00;38;06;00 - 00;38;31;20
Unknown
The big company had pretty big, or just they came from different walks of life. And it was fascinating. It was incredibly fascinating to see what they've created in such a short amount of time for an industry that has not yet invented, and, and all of them, the majority of them riding their coattails on Elon's starship rocket.

00;38;31;22 - 00;38;59;29
Unknown
I think that was a pretty that was pretty eye opening. And and because of that, I came back to Houston and I just started I was like, did I miss something here? Like, I know, you know, I know Elon has done a lot of things with his companies. And again, whether you like him or not, whatever, it's irrelevant, but a matter of like him creating Tesla and SpaceX, you know, and Boring Company and all the other Neuralink things that he's created, like he's he's definitely created things.

00;38;59;29 - 00;39;24;00
Unknown
And like, am I paying attention to it closely? And I started thinking about his whole vision of like what he's been doing. And, in parallel with that, I happened to, went on a ski trip with my brother in law, who happens to own a model three. He threw me in it. He's a hare. You drive and you drive back home and I'll drive you the car.

00;39;24;00 - 00;39;45;07
Unknown
And I was like, okay. And, like, full self-driving all the way back to New York. Traffic circles, double traffic circles through Manhattan. I was I didn't touch the steering wheel. I was like, Holy shit. Like, this is the future. Like, this is I was so impressed with, like, how well it adapted to everything we did on the highway in snowy weather.

00;39;45;09 - 00;40;10;21
Unknown
Driving down a mountain from Pennsylvania through New York is incredible. So then I went down, and I now I've just started kind of thinking of, like, what does what does he see that the rest of the world is not seeing? So I started just really double clicking on this. And I think with AI like the opportunities there to deliver Bountiful abundance.

00;40;10;23 - 00;41;06;25
Unknown
And I think what he's doing is very interesting to watch, whether he succeeds or not. Likely to succeed, maybe not on the time horizons that Wall Street expects, but in general, I think he's he's slated to probably succeed. He has a better vision than I think most people have. And I think with with abundance, you know, again, if you can build a fully sustainable economy here on Earth with renewable energy, robotics that can deliver any good and service that you desire for low cost, and you have logistics that can transport these things without a driver autonomously on energy, cross-country, last mile delivery in a robotaxi to your house in which your robot, your Optimus robot,

00;41;06;27 - 00;41;25;13
Unknown
receives it at the door and brings it like, what is that going to do for the world? Yeah, what is going on like that is a very interesting. It's the Jetsons. It's a very interesting world to live in. So then what do humans do? And so, I, I'm curious like that's, that's probably how we can use AI.

00;41;25;14 - 00;41;45;09
Unknown
Like I think when that happens. And I think that's going to happen very soon, I think there's a lot more questions like how we use it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I mean I think the I heard this recently and I can't, I can't claim this as my own, I don't remember from what maybe some AI video, but like I.

00;41;45;11 - 00;42;02;22
Unknown
It was like what people are willing to spend a lot of money on. It was like a solution, right? You've got a pain point. You'll pay anything. I mean, I think I think of, like, when, you know, kids are super, yet their babies and you're sleep deprived and they just won't go to sleep, and you're like, I would, I would do anything to get this baby.

00;42;02;22 - 00;42;25;26
Unknown
Just, you know, that kind of feeling. I think we still have things that we bought that we never used because of those moments. And then it was, convenience, right? Like, like can make things are just makes things easy. Super easy. Right. And you do what you've just described. Sure. But the third one was experience was something that you can't get anywhere else, unique or otherwise.

00;42;25;26 - 00;42;47;00
Unknown
But like, at least unique to you, you'll spend a lot of money on an experience that, that you can't get without, you know? And so I do see, I, I think I agree with what you're saying. I mean, I agree that that's, that's our future state and maybe sooner. I mean, what does Elon say, 2036? Right.

00;42;47;02 - 00;43;08;13
Unknown
He's ambitious. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think you have to multiply by 2 or 3 with him. You hit on the first two, I guess what I'm thinking through is like, yeah, I think then at that point you start thinking through, okay, what do I want to experience? What is this? What is this thing giving me an opportunity to do now that it that I couldn't do before?

00;43;08;16 - 00;43;24;25
Unknown
And I think I think there's candidly I think it'll split by generation and by, by what your prior experiences were. Right. And you'll say, well, your older you've been like, oh, I want to travel. I want to see the world now. I want to do the things that I never got to do because I was I was working.

00;43;24;27 - 00;43;56;17
Unknown
You're younger. I don't know. I don't know what that looks like here. Here's the thing about seeing the world that I thought about overseas this summer. We have this notion that I'm going to go visit this foreign destination, and it's going to be amazing. And they often are. Don't get me wrong. However, it's it's odd to think that we evolve and that we somehow think that these other countries don't evolve.

00;43;56;19 - 00;44;31;16
Unknown
And what do you mean? Well, I think there was a time where when I was younger, I would travel to foreign destinations and it really, truly would be a different experience. It'd be very you get to immerse yourself and learn the cultures, talk to the people. It would just be very different now. It's not that different. And so like when we went to London in Paris this summer, and we went to Spain the year before, in, in Italy, Switzerland maybe the year prior.

00;44;31;18 - 00;44;37;27
Unknown
So, you know, we've done Europe decent amount and Thailand etc. so.

00;44;38;00 - 00;44;56;11
Unknown
The countries have evolved with us. So when I would go to London, for example, Paris, like not that different. Like the architecture is different, but most people are also just on their on their phones. People are sitting in coffee shops on their phone, scrolling Instagram like, this is not okay, I'm here. This feels just like back at home.

00;44;56;11 - 00;45;17;29
Unknown
It's better weather, like I it's fascinating. Fair point I sorry, finish your thought. Oh, no. I just think it's fascinating to like I want when I ever hear like I want to travel more. I'm like, well, the world is becoming smaller, the world is becoming more of one unit. And I think embracing that, I think is interesting. I think I allows you the opportunities to be more efficient.

00;45;17;29 - 00;45;40;06
Unknown
But also I think what we don't expect is that email allowed us to be more efficient, but that just created more work for all of us. We became more connected. So I think there's definitely going to be a strain on on mental health with the amount of expectations that are going to be. And if you can't do the job, then I'm going to find someone else who could manage your agent better than you can.

00;45;40;08 - 00;46;06;04
Unknown
And that's going to cause I think big, big strains to to the workforce. Definitely has its advantages. I mean, on on the travel note, like my wife, I realize is is pretty much married to ChatGPT because, like in thank God in some ways because like she within a moment's notice, she was able to figure out, we're going to go over for lunch, we're going to go here to the park, we're going to go here to, you know, take the kids.

00;46;06;04 - 00;46;24;29
Unknown
We're going to go like she had. ChatGPT has her agent in her pocket, just like I need to go somewhere. And it was almost like is funny, is almost like The Matrix. When, like, they call it the payphone and I need an exit and like, the pay phone just commits an exit to them via phone. Right. So is kind of that mom is like, yeah, my kids are losing it.

00;46;25;00 - 00;46;58;03
Unknown
I need to get to a park now. Like what? Tell me the nearest coffee shop, bakery in a park or something. And it's like, boom. Like one mile away. Like, yeah, yeah, but I feel like you lose. You lose the the serendipity of choice. You do like, I, I don't know, I guess what my pushback on the travel piece and maybe it parlays into this is like I when I think of travel, I think of destinations that are different, meaning destinations that you can't look at and get the same experience than being, meaning the comparatively what, like waterfalls, you know, or, sure.

00;46;58;05 - 00;47;18;09
Unknown
And maybe it's the point you're making, right? It's like things that have not evolved will become more valuable because they give you a different experience than what you're used to. Sure. And in that way, and I don't know, I don't know where you were in Thailand, but like, I think of, you know, Chiang Mai. Yes. It's involved. Yes.

00;47;18;09 - 00;47;47;20
Unknown
It's very touristy, but like, it was also one of the only places in the world I've been to where I in one little food truck park, I heard 20 different languages and like, that was cool. That was. That was unique. That was different. You know, obviously some it was a core memory to a certain respect. And so I, I, I do think that, like, while I agree, we are decision making can be much more faster if we relinquish that the act of deciding.

00;47;47;20 - 00;48;16;12
Unknown
Yeah. To the machine. Sure. What I, what I do what I do think that would be interesting. Interesting. Such a nondescript word. So I don't know if that's the right term for this, but, but it's like your your, your wife in this scenario is giving context to an Am about what it is she wants or not, as long as she continues to give context that's related to what she's experiencing, then yeah, I see a lot a ton of use.

00;48;16;12 - 00;48;45;06
Unknown
If we get lazy about that and we're we get emoji, we modify our prompts and we're just like, yeah, give it done. You know, then we are meat suits, then we are just like, yeah, we'll just follow whatever. You know, you tell me to do. I, I, I find it interesting where I have found more people who their work, their, their, their time away from home.

00;48;45;09 - 00;49;05;20
Unknown
So their time that they spend not at home either working or doing something else. Right? Whether it's a hobby or anything like I found it interesting that a lot of people who are using I spent a lot more time with their AI agent. Building an idea which I think is fascinating. I think it's super cool building an idea of something that they've got.

00;49;05;20 - 00;49;25;02
Unknown
They're trying to figure creating something out of nothing. Yeah. The number of people have here a vibe coding something. I was like, it's I'm actually kind of happy because I'm like, oh, cool. Like someone who I never thought would create something has learned a vibe code. I've got a buddy of mine who and I, she jokes aside, like, I think he bought his first MacBook last year.

00;49;25;02 - 00;49;42;20
Unknown
I think on the first lap, I'm pretty sure within a year ago he bought his first laptop and he's vibe coding, like all kinds of things like that. I'm pretty impressed by that. He built a whole dashboard for his family. Like what? Games. And like, who's got what activities and like, he just be something a solution was not there.

00;49;42;23 - 00;50;09;25
Unknown
And or he didn't want to pay for the existing solution because it's too expensive. So he created one and he did it in a matter of hours, you know. So I think that's fascinating to see. But yeah, I mean, look, it dude, I am excited for the day I get, I get to be like Iron Man and Jarvis, where I can just be like, daddy's home and like, everything's around and I can talk like, yeah, that when that day happens, I'm all in.

00;50;09;27 - 00;50;30;10
Unknown
What does that do for humanity? I don't know, I think it's going to be very interesting. I think it's gonna be very I think people will be irritated with other people. Yeah, yeah. Because he does reset the baseline, right? Yeah. You're I understand you. You're I understands your emotion. It understands your personality. And so your AI is not going to disappoint you.

00;50;30;11 - 00;50;47;18
Unknown
Yeah, but another human being. Very well okay. And so it's it's oh my God I have such a good. And I've brought this up before. But it's, it's such a pertinent example to like, my wife, you know, she, she's struggling with like, motherhood and work and all the other things, all this, you know, stressors of life.

00;50;47;18 - 00;51;07;06
Unknown
Sure. Right. And she's on Instagram and she's flip and she's like, oh, my God, you saw this video. You have to watch it. It's just it's exactly how I feel. Yeah. And she shows it to me and it's this like elderly gentleman on a stage like like as if in a panel distinguished. Well, like, well, you know, looks educated, speaks eloquently.

00;51;07;06 - 00;51;28;07
Unknown
Yeah. And, you know, saying all the things that she said to me, but just in a, in a professional setting, she's like, see, I was like, yeah. I generated his lips, don't even move to the words yet. And she's like, yeah, but it's it's just like validating for me as well. Yeah. It heard what you said. Yeah. And put it in a video and it's an ad.

00;51;28;08 - 00;51;44;13
Unknown
Yeah I don't know. I don't know what it's trying to accomplish beyond that. Like yeah. You feel better. Yeah. But it's like. And then she got mad at me and it's like, it's exactly what you're saying, right? Like this video that's completely fake. That's just saying exactly what she wants to hear. Yeah. Made her feel better about herself.

00;51;44;13 - 00;52;09;16
Unknown
Yeah. Made her feel good. And her husband, who's pointing out the fact that this is fake, is is the enemy. Is the enemy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I, I have a I have a person in my orbit who is going through things in, in their life. I'm going to try to not be. Yeah. Not to reveal gender.

00;52;09;16 - 00;52;38;02
Unknown
Anything is going through things in their life and they used an AI agent to validate a lot of questions. And one screenshot that they continually kind of send is like, I should be making X amount of money at this age, and they feel fully justified and feeling this way. And to me I'm like, well, what what work experience have you done?

00;52;38;02 - 00;52;57;06
Unknown
Like what what have you done to to work towards that? Like but but to them it's like, well, I'm this age I should be making AI says I should be making this much. I'm not. It's everyone's fault. Like, why don't you agree? Clear that these are facts. The AI agrees with me. Like, yeah, but I was telling you what you want to hear.

00;52;57;06 - 00;53;20;12
Unknown
Like that's not true. That's not how the world works. Yeah, yeah. So it relatable like it's it's it's interesting. It's, I mean, this is a rabbit hole. I just professionally too, like, companies are operating on these the data sets that they see. Right. Yeah. And the bronze data sets, I mean, if you use AI to clean up and implement a good data governance, you clean up your data.

00;53;20;14 - 00;53;34;11
Unknown
Ultimately, it's going to tell you something different about what you thought was your company strategy. Right. And then and then it's so like you're telling someone hey based on your golden data set, this is what you should do. And they're like but wait I've been operating this way and it's been going okay. Like what do you mean?

00;53;34;11 - 00;54;02;05
Unknown
You know I, I think that is the biggest discussion. That's maybe it's taken us an hour to get to. Maybe. But it's like in a world where now AI is providing insights that are easily ingestible to us, that are likely more discordant with reality over time. How does humanity engage?

00;54;02;08 - 00;54;27;19
Unknown
Say it again. So. So in a world where, let me I'll use an example. So there's a, there's a book by, a famous chef. I can't remember now, but it's like setting the table. Anyway, so he talks about how, like, being the head of this, hospitality group which owns, like, 11 Madison Park and, it's Union Square or something like garden.

00;54;27;19 - 00;54;45;28
Unknown
So I'm like, he's like he said, he sits the salt shaker in the middle of the table. He's like your job as a as boss of this is that constantly people will do this. And you're like, no, no, this is our this is what we who we are and no, no, no. And they'll move you away. And you got to recenter the organization, move you away.

00;54;46;01 - 00;55;14;24
Unknown
And I feel like I allows us to move this dramatically more and resets our expectations of what the center, our center is. And sure. And so over time, I feel like these two points get further and further apart because in our minds we think, oh wait, our center is actually here. And so we're constantly tricking ourselves that the center is actually closer to where we are than what where we started.

00;55;14;27 - 00;55;38;25
Unknown
And so yes, we have reset our baseline, and that's happens with every generation, with every new wave of technology. Yeah. But what does that do to us when, we lack it? To your point, we're lazy about creating community and seeking community and seeking engagement. Human connection. We we believe more and more what AI tells us is the ultimate truth, right?

00;55;38;28 - 00;56;16;02
Unknown
We're we're we're reliant, let's say, on on whatever AI is, is feeding us back. And over time, we stop creating, you know, out of our, our true center. We start creating. We create from a new baseline that isn't even maybe aligned with what our center really is. And, and you can really center with values, whatever. You know, I don't think, I don't think this is a question that's easily answered because we're talking about some future state that we don't know what you know, but but it is something that like, I think about a lot, especially as a parent, right, where it's like, how do I teach my kids to respect their center,

00;56;16;05 - 00;56;34;18
Unknown
you know, and, and, and hold that and be proud of that in a way, in a, in an environment that's constantly going to be pushing them and pulling away from that. And it's going to be so much easier to not have to. It's a great question. I.

00;56;34;20 - 00;57;07;21
Unknown
I think the as human beings, we leverage technology to guide us and help us in any way we can. And we we're aware and we acknowledge that I can hallucinate, but I don't hear a lot of people complaining about that. Apple maps had their fiasco in the first year, and everyone banned Apple Maps even to this day. What use Apple maps?

00;57;07;21 - 00;57;26;23
Unknown
How dare you should use Google Maps like I hear it now. I'm like, guys, that was like 12 years ago. I think it was in college. It was in college. I'm pretty sure Apple has fixed it by now. I think they offer a pretty good mapping solution, but humans don't forget Apple Maps had that fiasco right when Apple Maps debuted and everybody's like Apple Maps sucks.

00;57;26;23 - 00;57;58;05
Unknown
You should use Google Maps. Whatever. One can argue people don't forget how you made them feel. People don't forget how you made them feel. People don't forget when technology makes a mistake, but when it doesn't make mistakes that often, or it makes mistakes in a way that you believe them to be true. So with hallucinations it could hallucinate, but you kind of like you can correct it quickly and get back on track to either truth or leaning towards an ideology that you believe in.

00;57;58;06 - 00;58;24;19
Unknown
You subscribe to, and which removes us from the center because you feel like, well, this says it's true. This is it's correct. This, this says what I'm feeling, what I'm thinking. Therefore every if the AI in in which the AI is the all intelligent superintelligence of all sources on Earth says this is somewhat true, then that must mean everybody feels this way.

00;58;24;21 - 00;58;50;20
Unknown
And I think that's that's probably what's dangerous about it. As we get away from the truth. It's false community is what you're saying. It's false community. It's a false sense of thinking that you, the group think of the world, is thinking like you do just because the AI agrees with it. I think that's that's the false thing.

00;58;50;22 - 00;59;16;00
Unknown
But your question is interesting because maybe the center should move. That's fair. Maybe the center needs to move. I think about I think about my kids education a lot, and I think to myself, I, I probably spend more time thinking about this, and I really should, but I do. I think about it a lot because thinking is working.

00;59;16;02 - 00;59;41;05
Unknown
Thinking is working. You know, my daughter goes to private school here in town. And I, I every year school's about to start next year or next week. And I'm thinking to myself, like, okay, I'm gonna get back to the grind of, like, you know, drop off, pick up at three. What did you do? Backpack. Got to get the shoes.

00;59;41;05 - 00;59;46;14
Unknown
Got to get the uniform. Got to get this that. And,

00;59;46;17 - 01;00;12;15
Unknown
I think to myself, I'm like, how are they evolved? Like, has this grade really evolved since last year? Like, we've all evolved. The technology is really evolved. But I see the homework that she comes home with. I'm like, seriously, I why is it why is that not evolved? And I, I think to myself, the curriculum has not changed.

01;00;12;17 - 01;00;41;06
Unknown
The teaching format has not changed. Why not? We've changed. So should the center move or should the center go back? Should the center always be teacher in the front chalkboard behind her rows of desks lined up, kids facing the front of the class. Teacher writing in the board? Should that always be the center? Or should the center be?

01;00;41;09 - 01;01;07;01
Unknown
Students are working together collaboratively on an initiative project, and they've got the best tools at their fingertips. And they work like ants or bees. Yeah, I'm working on an initiative and they work together on their own time, collaborate, communicate, have the research and do what they need to do to achieve the goal, the objective, and then learn from it and move forward more.

01;01;07;01 - 01;01;34;08
Unknown
And we're far away from that type of style of learning. Yeah. In fact, I, I would, I would argue, are said differently. I wouldn't define the center by the, the architecture of the classroom, or rather the center being the collaborative spirit of putting it, putting a project together. Right? Yeah. And it's like if we are not if we're not leveraging the tools we have, the new technologies, we have to be able to to center around that.

01;01;34;10 - 01;01;54;24
Unknown
Then what are we. Yeah. What are we doing? You like? Yeah. You're ill preparing our, you know, we're ill preparing our children for a world that they're not ready to handle. I, I if you ask. You know what I lose sleep over the most. That's probably one of the subjects I lose sleep over a quite a bit because.

01;01;54;26 - 01;02;11;21
Unknown
My wife and I talk about this in terms like, why are we in Houston? I mean, no disrespect to like, Houston's our roots, but it's hot. It's not. It's every every summer. I think we all have the same thing. Why are we here? You know, it's it's it's a nice place to live. Not a great place to visit is what I say.

01;02;11;23 - 01;02;35;28
Unknown
Yeah. Concrete jungle kind of thing. And so, like, you have the opportunity and then with AI and with technology could work from anywhere. I could work in a much nicer place or a much nicer weather, climate place. But we choose to live here because, well, communities here, families here, friends are here. The school is here. We've already, you know, laid roots and but then I think to myself was like, okay, but we're going to the times are different.

01;02;35;28 - 01;03;03;15
Unknown
You're going to go through this whole 13 years of school and graduate. And then is she going to go to a normal college? Is she even going to college at all? Is she going to graduate college and get a normal job? Like, I have a big question mark on all of these things that I never had before, very different than you and I coming out of because you and I were following the center.

01;03;03;21 - 01;03;21;02
Unknown
Yeah. Were we get good grades. You graduate high school, you go to a good college. You what we were taught the center to be. Yeah. That was the center. You graduate college, you get a good job, or you go to grad school and you become further in your professional academia, and then you get, you know, a higher paying job.

01;03;21;04 - 01;03;44;24
Unknown
This is what we were taught. Now it's completely different. Yet. Yet this the quote unquote center has not changed in terms of the trajectory of children. So I'm that keeps me up a lot. Yeah. That I think about that quite a bit. Like what do we do. Because you're investing this time and energy into this. And if it's pointless, like I don't know.

01;03;44;27 - 01;04;06;16
Unknown
Yeah. Right. Yeah yeah yeah I mean shoot it's the same I've had people on this, this, this podcast, CTOs that are like, I've, I've structured, you know, companies that aren't necessarily. I don't have to be I native like, their customers don't care whether they're AI or not or whatever. You know, and they're sitting there being like, you know, I've cultivated my team.

01;04;06;18 - 01;04;26;27
Unknown
I've asked my team to grow in certain ways that just don't matter anymore. And it's like, I mean, professionally, he can maybe look at this and I'm just thinking one specifically. You can maybe look at this and say, okay, well, I, I'm either need to like I need to draw a line in the sand and you need to either change or be gone.

01;04;27;00 - 01;04;55;28
Unknown
You can't do that with your kids. You know, you can't you can't so I, I don't know, I, you're operating with different constraints and, and I mean I mean speaking of like, like you're operating with like an amorphous vision of what the future looks like with limited data on, I mean, extremely limited data on ironically on the, on, on what reality looks like.

01;04;56;00 - 01;05;23;26
Unknown
Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then trying to make a decision on the thing that you care most about in your life. I said this to a friend of mine the other day. If you think about it like what we're going through right now is probably the greatest science fiction movie you could you could probably replicate, because we sure, we have the sci fi movies of going out to space, deep space, Star Wars, Star Trek, you name it.

01;05;23;26 - 01;05;51;01
Unknown
Whatever. But this is the precursor. This is the building of all of it, and it's all happening all at the same time. We're creating a new generative intelligence that can recursively learn on its own at a rapid rate. People. Even to this day, I advocate people are failing to understand how fast the recursive learning is happening, how fast these things are going.

01;05;51;01 - 01;06;18;20
Unknown
And so the the timeline in which we hit each milestone might be shrinking from seven years, five years, three years. But once it gets to a point where like, it just is recursively learning boom, boom, boom, boom, like the speed in which development happens will be something we'll never we've never witnessed before. And I think that's that is what's happening probably within the next.

01;06;18;23 - 01;06;39;07
Unknown
Like we say, ten years, as if it's so short, but actually in ten years time frame, a lot can happen, especially at the pace that we've gone at. If ChatGPT just came to the market in, what, 2023, at least commercial? Yeah, I would say the consumer adoption really launched in 2023. So that was that was three years ago.

01;06;39;10 - 01;07;03;04
Unknown
A lot has happened in just three years. And so you're saying another ten years, like what's going to happen then. So I think like coming full circle back to your question. Like I, I think we have these tools to keep moving us forward. We're all thinking of how to move forward. That is further away from the center in which we started with.

01;07;03;04 - 01;07;24;21
Unknown
And I think the question I sometimes ask is, does the center need to be moved, that if the center is moved, who's to say it's right? Of where that center should be? That's the part we don't know. Yeah. And you're right. Like, things are constantly evolving and changing, and I just, I don't know I don't know how to make the next decision.

01;07;24;21 - 01;07;52;11
Unknown
We need to go plot data points. Go and go do. Yeah, yeah. I mean, the the stock market is a good, interesting indicator of a lot of this because like, you have all fundamental signs of like we're, you know, high debt, low interest rates, inflation, all time highs in the stock market though. But everyone says we're in a bubble not in a bubble, but like, I don't know it's it's it's just an interesting time.

01;07;52;11 - 01;08;12;11
Unknown
It's such a unique, unique time frame that I don't know I don't know where it's going to go. That's the fun of it. I, right, you're our friend PJ. We left him out there without wifi. Probably read a book or something. So let's let's we'll stop here. Go get a drink and keep this talk. Keep this conversation going.

01;08;12;11 - 01;08;16;22
Unknown
Cool, man, I appreciate it. Thanks.